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2020-2021 Champions League Futures

Since Round of 16 fixtures are coming up next week, I thought it'd be a good time to talk about 2020-2021 Champions League futures. Who are you guys putting your money on? Any value still on the board? Personally liking Man City or Juve but anyone think any of the longer odds are worth a punt?
Bayern Munich +275
Manchester City +375
Liverpool +550
Juventus +1200
Paris Saint-Germain +1200
Chelsea +1400
Atletico Madrid +1400
FC Barcelona +1600
Real Madrid +1600
Borussia Dortmund +2000
Atalanta +3300
RB Leipzig +4000
Sevilla +4000
Borussia Monchengladbach +12500
FC Porto +15000
Lazio +15000
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Matchday Analysis - 31st January

Hey guys! As promised yesterday, here's my matchday analysis from Sunday's games.
 
I've decided I'll just be publishing one analysis on Reddit from today onwards instead of 2 (either Saturday or Sunday), but you'll be able to view all the analysis from both weekend days and lots of other interesting FI related stuff on my new website - https://academy.indexscholar.co.uk
 
Anyways enjoy!
 
West Ham [1] – Liverpool [3]
 
Mohammed Salah swept up the dividends in the top forward category with 2 goals against West Ham in a 3 - 1 win. Game winning goal points definitely played their part but in my opinion Salah fully deserved the dividend win. He started off slowly but gradually grew into the game and started to cause problems for The Hammers defence. At first he almost converted a nice cutback from Origi in the first half but his shot was well blocked.
He grabbed his first goal of the game on 56 minutes in typical fashion from the right hand side. It marked the end of his barren 6 game run without a goal. He was able to place his shot into the far corner leaving after being played the ball by Curtis Jones who had an immediate impact coming off the bench.
He netted his 2nd of the game on 67 minutes after a swift Liverpool break-away from a West Ham corner on the opposite end. He exquisitely controlled Shaqiri's whipped cross and slid the ball past Fabianski. It was a world class move finished off by a world class player.
All in all, 239 PB points for Salah here with 61 touches, 6 shots (4 on target), 40 accurate passes, 1 key pass and 1 successful dribble attempt. He won't win PB often but when he gets these braces combined with game winning goal points he can be in with a shout.
Has risen in price from a low of £1.71 on the 18th of January to current buy price of £2.42. Still a far way off his 1 year high of £4.12 but as the platform has become more dividend-centric with all the changes that have taken place over the past year, I wouldn't be investing at this price. There are cheaper forwards who will provide you with more opportunities to win dividends.
 
Trent Alexander Arnold scored a fairly modest 113 points but he performed fairly well here, providing a brilliant cross field pass to Shaqiri which started off the counter attack which saw Liverpool score the 2nd. At £4.88 I wouldn't be rushing in to buy, but would certainly add him to my watchlist.
 
And finally, a word on Thiago Alcantara. Played the full 90 minutes and was very impressive. What caught my eye with him was his ability to pick out a through pass. There was a moment were he cut inside from the left flank and played a defence-splitting pass through the West Ham defence. Origi could only get a toe on it to send the ball wide in the end, but it was a sublime piece of vision from the former Bayern and Barcelona man.
In this game he had 121 touches, 93 accurate passes, 2 key passes, 1 cross and 6 long balls (3 accurate), He created a big chance and was influential on the defensive side too with 2 interceptions and 5 tackles. If he keeps his place in the side then he looks like a real snip at £1.58, as he's way down from his 1 year high of £2.79.
 
Chelsea [2] – [0] Burnley
 
Callum Hudson-Odoi has been a massive benefactor from the arrival of Thomas Tuchel at Chelsea. Classed as a Forward on the Index but playing as a right wing back is good news for holders. The numbers look good too. At the surface we've seen two respectable scores of 156 and 140 against Wolves and Burnley respectively.
Beyond that however, in this game we saw him complete 90 minutes for the second successive game with 83 touches, 48 accurate passes (84.2%), 2 key passes, 11 crosses, 4 dribble attempts and 2 long balls. If he keeps playing in this position, I can see the potential for a PB win down the line if he's able to grab a goal involvement.
The market has been quick to spot the opportunity however, as his price has shot up to £2.23 from £1.38 on the 23rd of January and a remarkable 1-year low of 89p. For those who don't hold I would advise to wait and see whether Tuchel continues to play him in the right wingback role, as the new Chelsea manager is known for tinkering with his tactics.
 
Cesar Azpilicueta defied the odds to win star man with 261 points on a gold day for his holders. 28p in dividends for a player that is 46p at the time of writing is incredible. Scored the game winning goal for Chelsea with a powerful strike in a 2 - 0 win over Burnley. Wasn't fully nailed under Frank Lampard but appears to be 100% back in the starting fold in Tuchel's 3 at the back system, playing as the right-sided centre half just like he did under Antonio Conte to great success.
His stats for this game were good with 106 touches, 84 accurate passes (87.5%), 1 key pass, 2 crosses and 9 long balls. Can be picked up now on bids for 35p, which is a cheap way in for a Chelsea starting defender.
 
Marcos Alonso is another one who's been launched back into the picture at Chelsea, with the Spaniard scoring Chelsea's 2nd today. Controlled a beautifully weighted pass from Pulisic onto his chest and rifled a left footed volley into the top corner. Alonso's ability to score at the opposition end has never been in doubt, as it's the defensive side of his game which can be suspect. However, playing in his favoured left wingback role affords him that extra attacking freedom as he's got more insurance behind him from the left sided centre back (Rudiger). With his highest bid at 39p and down from a 1 year high of 94p he's another cheap option that I would be happy to pick up. But the cautious personality in me would say wait a little bit as he could be rotated with Ben Chilwell.
 
Thiago Silva popped up here with 211 points and finished in 3rd place in the defender category. World class defender who could have been picked up at 28p last month. Wins performance dividends quite a bit and has won a bit of media in the past as well. At 52p now I'd be cautious though as he's 36 years old. All it takes is a single serious injury to wipe out your investment in him. Solid option but I'd personally stay clear of this one as his retirement date is theoretically closer than the other Chelsea defenders like Azpilicueta, Rudiger and Alonso.
 
Mason Mount also played another blinder here, scoring an 8.0 rating on SofaScore. 154 points from 80 minutes is good, and he was involved in the game with 73 touches, 4 shots (all off target), 45 accurate passes (88.2%), 3 key passes, 10/14 ground duels won and 4 tackles. If he improves his shooting accuracy and subsequent goal output, he'd no doubt be an even better hold.
He's risen to £2.27 on the back of his recent performances, which is a price I would be a bit hesitant to fork out for considering the fact that English players tend to cost more than their European counterparts. But if he dipped again to around the £1.50 - £1.70 mark I'd be more tempted to have a look.
 
Also, a quick shout-out to Jorginho who scored 191 with no goals or assists here and 154 in his previous game with no goals or assists either. If he continues to get starts, he'll be back in the mix. He's way off his 1 year high of £2.16, and with the current highest bid sitting at 64p he looks a decent shout.
 
Patrick van Aanholt [DEF – Crystal Palace]
 
The Dutch international recorded a score of 186 with no goals or assists in his game against Wolves at home.
He has a decent PB record despite playing for a mid-table Premier league side.
Looking back at last year he's produced some 140's and 150's although we have to go back all the way to 22nd February 2020 for his highest score of 291. The ability to win dividends is certainly there, but you might be looking at a long wait as Palace aren't a team that's usually on the front foot with regard to ball possession.
Still, at a price of 37p he is worth a punt. You only need to look at a player like Azpilicueta to see that the reward is possible. The Chelsea captain is trading at 45p and he won a gold day star man worth 28p against Burnley.
 
Brighton & Hove Albion [1] – [0] Tottenham Hotspur
 
Pascal Gross caught everyone's attention with his performance in a 1 - 0 win against Tottenham. 232 PB points to seal the win in the MID category playing in a central midfield position he was influential in dictating Brighton's attacks.
79 touches, 40 accurate passes (83.3%), 14 crosses, 2 long balls, 1 assist and 3 dribble attempts was quite impressive considering Spurs had 57% ball possession.
Can be picked up on bids at around the 25p mark which is very cheap. Although Graham Potter does favour rotation in his side, Gross has played 90 minutes in the last 3 games, racking up 151 points against Fulham with no goals or assists and a 90 pointer against Leeds who dominated the ball with 66% possession. There's value all over the market and Gross exemplifies this with his win.
 
Another Brighton player who I really like the look of in the bargain bin category is Solly March. He scored 153 points against Spurs and has been playing in a left wingback role whenever called upon. Classed as a midfielder he's OOP in a good way. He's also registered a 193 score last month against Sheffield United with no goals or assists. Potential is definitely there with the highest bid on him currently standing at 17p.
 
Liam Cooper [DEF – Leeds United]
 
Leeds captain Cooper has been out with injury at various parts of this season but he's a defender who does decently enough on the matrix. He has a PB average of 129.4 in the last 5 games and played the full 90 minutes in 4 of those games, scoring once against Manchester United.
If he's able to pop up with a goal whilst playing the full 90 there's scope for a win I feel.
At present he has no bids on him which shows the problems that the Football Index are having with liquidity in the market.
 
Koen Casteels [GK – VfL Wolfsburg]
 
Casteels came 3rd in the goalkeeper PB standings with a clean sheet and 137 points locked in after a 3 - 0 win against Freiburg.
He was only 2 points off of 1st place as well which is quite encouraging.
2 saves, 26 accurate passes (81.3%) and 18 long balls (12 accurate) are more than decent stats I must say.
38p highest bid at the time of writing is a cheap price to pay for a goalkeeper who continues to impress with each passing week.
 
Lorient [3] - [2] Paris Saint Germain
 
Neymar was on the goal trail in his side's 3 - 2 away defeat at Lorient. He scored 2 composed penalties, drawing the foul for the first one after being played through by a flick on from Mbappe.
The attack really does flow through him in this side, as he showed with 115 touches, 55 accurate passes (78.6%), 3 key passes, 6 crosses, 4 long balls and 13 dribble attempts (5 successful).
At £6.79 it's a tricky one to call. For one, he fits the matrix to a tee being the ball magnet that he is, picking it up from deep and driving forward with it to the opposition box in a similar way to players like Lionel Messi and Eden Hazard.
But what puts me off is the fact that he's missed so many games for PSG. As of the 10th of January, he had only played in 52.43% of PSG games since joining the club which is insane. At the premium price point, I would also be looking at his media potential and with him publicly coming out and saying he wishes to stay at PSG, there isn't a very strong case for buying in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, he is a quality Football Index player but the likes of Messi (yes I know he's old) and Bruno Fernandes are winning dividends on a more consistent basis than Neymar.
 
The absence of Marquinhos is telling.
 
PSG with Marquinhos - 19 games, 16 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss  
PSG without Marquinhos - 10 games, 3 wins, 1 draw, 6 losses
 
Kimpembe clearly looks uncomfortable marshalling the defence in his absence, although he's just come back from injury himself and is known to need a bit of time to get back into his groove.
You would do well to pick him up on a bid of around £1.05 as Marquinhos is well away from his 1-year peak of £2.04. He is a world class defender who elevates PSG's level and he's scores very well on the matrix. His last 7 scores of 75, 186, 167, 154, 162, 174 and 181 are outstanding with no goals or assists in those games.
Although arguably there are better defenders with regard to goal threat but he does pop up with important goals as we saw at the tail end of the last season. Marquinhos gets the buy seal of approval from me at that price.
 
Yusuf Yazıcı [MID - Lille OSC]
 
There is a player here no doubt about it. I've watched him steal a PB win off of Rodrigo de Paul (who I hold) on a gold day in the past when the latter registered a 288 on the 22nd of November.
That night Yazici scored 356 points, albeit with 2 goals and an assist.
What's so impressive is this guy doesn't often complete 90 minutes yet he still racks up the points. 190 points in his last outing here and subbed off at the 70th minute mark, albeit with a game winning goal. If he had played on, I'm quite sure he would have been very close to the top of the PB leader board.
3 shot attempts, 37 touches, 13 accurate passes and 6 crosses is what he produced here.
At a £1.88 buy price I would lean slightly towards buying as he's still quite young at 24 years old.
 
Benjamin André [MID – Lille OSC]
 
A player who I've held in the past is 30-year-old Benjamin Andre.
With his highest bid currently 6p I am a bit surprised. Don't get me wrong he's not going to be winning PB regularly being a more defensive midfielder but he is capable of sneaking a win on a bronze or silver matchday at some point.
His last 5 scores are 153, 118, 115, 112 and 125. His 3 most recent games with goal involvements saw him score a 192 against Nantes (goal - 1st March 2020), 206 against Bordeaux (goal - 26th October 2019) and a 205 against Angers (assist - 13th September 2019).
It's a long shot as his last win came in 2019 but there's plenty of players that go a while without a win before showing up on everyone's radar again. Decent punt at that price.
 
That's it for this week I'll be posting my next analysis after this weekend.
And just as a reminder again I've got all this analysis and more available on my new website - https://academy.indexscholar.co.uk
See you next week!
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Every Premier League Sub's Reaction to The Messi News

So this whole Messi thing is pretty big news, but also interesting how widespread it goes. Thought it would be interesting to collate the current top post in each premier league club's sub relating to Messi's transfer request (or saga shortly beforehand) - the announcement was about 12 hours ago so these numbers are as of that point
/gunners (Arsenal) Arsenal will get Messi only if Napoli goes for him: 1484 Points I'm assuming this is an in joke where Arsenal tend to GAZUMP Napoli targets. Looks like the sub are mostly joking in relation to the news, but there's definitely a glimmer of hope amongst some
/avfc (Aston Villa) Discussion: What are the odds we get some of these Barcelona scraps.: 0 Points Looks like the Aston Villa sub was kind of pre-occupied by a certain someone being omitted from the England squad (and rightly so if you ask me). Very grounded response to the Messi news. EDIT: Rightly so that they're annoyed about him being left out, not rightly so that he was omitted!
/BrightonHoveAlbion (Brighton & Hove Albion) Not even a single post in the last 12 hours, let alone a mention of Messi
/Burnley (Burnley) Again, no mention of the Messi news here, come on Burnley you can dream
/chelseafc (Chelsea) Messi has chosen Manchester City as the club he'd like to play for: 171 Points Some actual news, highlighting that there was a chance he could've gone to Chelsea. However looks like this joke is well on its way to overtake it. Also plenty of chatter in the daily discussion.
/crystalpalace (Crystal Palace) Schrodingers Messi: 12 Points A very serious thread discussing the possibility of the Argentinian joining
/everton (Everton) Argentine veteran we should sign: 158 Points Another very serious thread, but would he keep Bernard out the team?
/FulhamFC (Fulham) Absolutely no mention of the man himself. I've also realised that clarifying the team name next to the sub link is a little redundant, but hell I've started now
/LeedsUnited (Leeds United) Messi wants to leave Barcelona: 63 Points I like this thread, it's clearly very tongue in cheek but I can sense the faintest little morsel of hope as well. Big fan of the top comment too.
/lcfc (Leicester City) Shooters Shoot: 134 Points So Leicester City is clearly the most active in terms of making jokes about this, including a beautiful photoshop with Messi & Suarez in Leicester shirts. The top post is a hail mary (hey I'm not American but that's a saying, right?) shot at getting the man to the East Midlands
/LiverpoolFC (Liverpool) Rival news : Messi wants to terminate his contract at Barcelona: 316 Points Firstly, I felt dirty going on this sub - but I did it for science. A serious discussion post, with mostly non-serious responses (aka. the whole of /soccer)
/MCFC (Manchester City) "Messi wants to play for Manchester City..." Marcelo Belcher: 934 Points !RemindMe 2 Weeks
/reddevils (Manchester United) [https://old.reddit.com/reddevils/comments/igdc9l/](Deportes Cuatro Manchester United have started an approach for the signing of Lionel Messi): 728 Points This was actually posted before the news, also "Tier Unknown" is my new band name thanks guys. EDIT I'm struggling to format this one, I think it's to do with the square bracket in the link
/nufc (Newcastle United) It would appear that the failed takeover has completely destroyed any level of hope (or even joy) from within the Newcastle sub
/SheffieldUnited (Sheffield United) When Messi arrives at the Lane...: 34 Points This is more like it, Sheff Utd bringing the jokes back - thanks guys
/SaintsFC (Southampton) Sadly no news on the South Coast, maybe they're playing it coy - I'm expecting some updates soon
/coys (Tottenham) No news at all, I expected more Tottenham... I'm pretty sure I spotted something last night when I was thinking of this post, perhaps it got removed
/WBAfootball (West Brom) Not even this gargantuan news could wake up the West Brom sub
/Hammers (West Ham) #AnnounceMessi: 128 Points I like how some subs went for slightly more sophisticated attempts at humour, West Ham went for a straight up shitpost
/WWFC (Wolves) Messi isn't portuguese, so the lack of posts is completely understandable
In Summary Reddit's standard formatting is not the nicest to use, but I'm too far in to go adding chrome extensions. Serious Posts: 5 (I'm including the Villa one here) Joke Posts: 7 Total Radio Silence: 8
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GW6 Clean sheet and goal odds

Clean Sheet odds:


Team Clean Sheet % Day
1. PSG 54% 1
2. Chelsea 48% 1
3. Manchester City 45% 2
4. Inter 40% 2
4. Olympiacos 40% 2
6. Bayern 36% 2
6. Dinamo Kiev 36% 1
8. Dortmund 33% 1
8. Lazio 33% 1
10. Sevilla 31% 1
11. Real Madrid 30% 2
12. Liverpool 25% 2
13. Barcelona 24% 1
14. Atletico 24% 1
15. Leipzig 22% 1

Odds to score:

This does NOT include assists. Bet against means if it's possible to bet against the player scoring, Yes usually indicates higher accuracy while No could also mean the bookie isn't sure of that player starting.
Forwards:
Player Goal % Bet Against Day
1. Lewandowski 69% Yes 2
2. Mbappe 68% Yes 1
3. Neymar 61% Yes 1
4. Lukaku 59% Yes 2
5. Immobile 54% Yes 1
6. Lautaro Martinez 50% Yes 2
7. Werner 49% No 1
8. Aguero 48% No 2
9. Abraham 43% Yes 1
9. Benzema 43% Yes 2
11. Jesus 42% No 2
12. Messi 42% No 1
13. Suarez 41% No 1
14. Ronaldo 40% Yes 1
15. Zapata 38% Yes 2
Midfielders:
Player Goal % Bet Against Day
1. Alexis Sanchez 46% No 2
2. Di Maria 45% No 1
3. Gnabry 40% No 2
4. Sterling 39% No 2
5. Pulisic 38% No 1
5. Tsygankov 38% Yes 1
7. Jota 37% No 2
7. Müller 37% Yes 2
7. Salah 37% No 2
7. Sane 37% No 2
11. De Bruyne 36% No 2
11. Torres 36% Yes 2
13. Perisic 35% No 2
14. Reus 34% Yes 1
14. Sancho 34% Yes 1
16. Foden 33% Yes 2
16. Coman 33% No 2
18. Correa 32% No 1
19. Ilicic 31% No 2
19. Mane 31% No 2

Note: Keep in mind that the odds can change after there are more team news, lineups etc.
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[OC] The most upvoted post on every subreddit

So I decided to gather a list of the most upvotes post on each PL teams’ subreddit because i sometimes like going on different subs and seeing the fans react to important moments In their history/ season. It also allows you to revive memorable PL moments and players I guess. Here it is.
DISCLAIMER: Obviously there are a lot of different factors involved like the age of the sub and number of users at the time of the post so keep that in mind
Gunners (Arsenal):
FA Cup 2020 Celebrations
BACKSTORY
We all know this one, no need to go into detail. Arsenal won the 2020 FA Cup in a 2-1 victory over Chelsea courtesy of a brace from Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang.
avfc (Aston Villa)
Aston Villa avoid relegation in the 19/20 PL season
BACKSTORY
Aston Villa avoid relegation (this looked very unlikely only a few weeks back) from the Premier League after a 1-1 draw to West Ham United. This point was enough to keep them up after Watford lost 3-2 to Arsenal and results did not go in Bournemouth’s favour.
Burnley (Burnley):
The reaction to the banner flown over the stadium during a fixture against Man City
BACKSTORY
Some morons decided to fly a banner over the Burnley stadium saying “All Lives Matter” as a response to the Black Lives Matter protests that had been taking place before every Premier League game.
BrightonHovealbion (Brighton)
Mooy Zidane comparison meme
BACKSTORY
Just a meme about Zidane looking like Aaron Mooy
ChelseaFC (Chelsea):
Chelsea sign Kai Havertz
BACKSTORY
Chelsea signed Kai Havertz from Bayer Leverkusen for a reported few which could reach up to 71 million pounds. The German International’s excellent performances for club and country lead to international recognition for the youngster and led to a race for his signature which Chelsea eventually won.
CrystalPalace (Crystal Palace):
Crystal Palace beat Leicester 5-0
BACKSTORY:
Palace beat Leicester 5-0 thus beating their record of highest win margin in Crystal Palace’s PL history. They moved up to 11th place.
Everton (Everton):
Leighton Baines tribute
BACKSTORY
A tribute to Everton legend Leighton Baines who retired on the last game of the 19/20 Premier League Season. A loyal and faithful servant of Everton and a firm fan-favourite notable for his deadliness from set-pieces, astuteness in defence and great attitude on and off the pitch.
FulhamFC (Fulham)
Joe Bryan appreciation thread
BACKSTORY
Fulham secured promotion in a 2-1 victory over Brentford in the Championship Play-off Final after Extra Time. 2 goals from Joe Bryan were enough to get Fulham over the line and grant them the win, returning them to the Premier League.
LeedsUnited (Leeds)
Chris Wood equaliser vs Newcastle
OVERVIEW
Chris Wood scores a 95th minute equaliser against Newcastle in 1-1 draw at St James’ Park. This was an important goal as it kept their hopes of getting promoted through the playoffs to the Premier League.
lcfc (Leicester City):
Leicester win the PL
BACKSTORY
Again, we all know the story, but it remains remarkable. A Leicester team ranked 5000/1 to win the title managed to pull it off with after excellent seasons in particular from Vardy, Mahrez and Kante as well as the master Tinkerman, Claudio Ranieri
LiverpoolFC (Liverpool):
Liverpool become PL champions
BACKSTORY:
We all know but Liverpool became the Champions for the first time in 30 odd years. After an agonising end to an enthralling title-race the previous season, Liverpool and Klopp finally got their hands on the Holy Grail.
MCFC (Man City):
Story about a lifelong Man City Fan who passed away with cancer a couple of years back
I don’t want to take anything away from the story or get any details wrong inadvertently. It’s best you go read it yourself if your up for it.
RedDevils (Man Utd)
A beautiful picture of Marouane Fellani getting hit in the head with a football
BACKSTORY
In Man Utd’s 2-1 loss to Real Madrid in the 2017 Super Cup, Fellaini’s image went viral all over social media so much that even Fellani himself reacted to it.
nufc (Newcastle):
A foreign supporter’s love letter to Newcastle
BACKSTORY
A Newcastle’s fan journey of supporting the club and how he fell in love with and decided to become a supporter of it.
SheffieldUnited (Sheffield United)
A pretty mediocre Messi joke can’t lie
BACKSTORY
When Lionel Messi, arguably one of the greatest players of a time , announced that he wanted to leave Barcelona, almost every set of fans in the world started jokingly thinking about how he would fit in their team.
SaintsFC (Southampton)
Hassenhuttl’s first game
BACKSTORY
After the mediocre period that Mark Hughes has while in charge of Southampton, the manager was sacked and replaced with Hassenhuttl. In his first ever game, he managed to secure a 3-2 victory. The fans were pretty hyped.
coys (Tottenham):
Spurs reach the UEFA Champions League Final
BACKSTORY
Tottenham Hotspur reached the first Champions League Final in their history. After being 3-0 down to a rampant Ajax side, a sensational hat trick from Lucas Moura marked an unbelievable comeback in the biggest game in the club’s history. The last of Moura’s goals came in the 96th minute and provoked tears of joy from manager Mauricio Pochettino.
WBAfootball (West Brom):
A funny dig at wolves
BACKSTORY
There is a rivalry between Wolves and West Brom, just as there is with all Midland Clubs. Not too sure about the context of the Kanye tweet tho tbf.
Hammers (West Ham):
Michail Antonio appreciation post
BACKSTORY
During the run-in, Antonio was in excellent form (particularly after the break) and was one of few players that really helped to drag West Ham over the line and steer them away from the drop zone. He was rewarded with a POTM because of his form which was well-deserved.
WWFC (Wolves):
Adama appreciation post
BACKSTORY
After a disappointing 18-19 campaign, Adama truly stepped up his game this year. Amazing dribbles, blistering pace, incredible strength and rapidly improving pace has made him one frightening (and fun to watch) player in the Premier League.
Well there it is, I hope u enjoyed it
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30+ Goal Season stats comparison between Messi/Ronaldo and the field from the past 20 years

I am not even going to analyse Messi and Ronaldo's all-rounded greatness, titles and individual accolades in this post, this is purely focused on their goal-scoring feats.
Remember the glory days of the 90's/2000's where the benchmark for a great striker [which neither Messi or Ronaldo even are] was to score 30+ goals a season? Before Messi and Ronaldo changed football forever, this was the aspiration for an elite CF.
You had many great CF's during this era. To name a few: Brazilian Ronaldo, Henry, Shevchenko, Drogba, Eto'o, Vieri, Van Nistelrooy, Raul, Del Piero, Trezeguet, Batistuta, David Villa, Makaay, etc.
Newer era in the past decade has seen strikers break this barrier with much more regularity with the likes of Lewandowski, Suarez, Aguero, Ibrahimovic, Cavani, Falcao, Kane, Aubameyang, Mario Gomez, Benzema and more achieving it on multiple occasions.
I'm going to illustrate just how off the charts Messi and Ronaldo's numbers have been by drawing up a comparison of all the CF's in the past 20 odd years who have broken the 30 goal barrier on more than 2 occasions. It's strict criteria meaning that even 27-29 goal seasons will not be counted towards it unless it falls on or below 40 total appearances considering injury-hit campaigns**. League Coefficients will also be applied so that only the top 5 European Leagues will be considered.**


Striker Name No. of Seasons with 30+ gls Clubs
Lionel Messi 12 [2008-2020] Barcelona
Cristiano Ronaldo 11 [2007-08, 2009-2018, 19-20] Man United, Real Madrid, Juve
Robert Lewandowski 7 [2011-2013, 2015-2020 Borussia Dortmund, Bayern
Sergio Aguero 6 [2011-12, 2013-15, 16-19] Manchester City
Edinson Cavani 6 [2010-13, 2014-15, 16-18] Napoli, PSG
Thierry Henry 5 [2001-2006] Arsenal
Zlatan Ibrahimovic 5 [2011-2016] AC Milan, PSG
Luis Suarez 5 [2012-14, 2015-2018] Liverpool, Barcelona
Ronaldo Lima 4 [1996-98, 2002-04] Barcelona, Inter, Real Madrid
Samuel Eto'o 4 [2004-06, 08-09, 2010-11] Barcelona, Inter Milan
Ruud Van Nistelrooy 4 [2001-2004, 2006-07] Man United, Real Madrid
Karim Benzema 4 [2007-08,11-12, 15-16, 18-19] Lyon, Real Madrid
Pierre Emerick Aubameyang 3 [2015-17, 2018-19] Borussia Dortmund, Arsenal
Radamel Falcao 3 [2011-13, 2016-17] Atletico Madrid, Monaco
Harry Kane 3 [2014-15, 2016-18] Tottenham
Neymar 3 [2014-16, 2017-18] Barcelona, PSG
Didier Drogba 3 [2003-04, 06-07, 09-10] Marseille, Chelsea
Roy Makaay 3 [2002-2005] Deportivo, Bayern Munich
Gonzalo Higuain 3 [2009-10, 2015-17] Real Madrid, Napoli, Juventus
Mario Gomez 3 [2008-09, 2010-12] Stuttgart, Bayern Munich

Some notes to take away from this data:
- Criteria inevitably was kinder to some and incredibly harsh to others. Prime example being Shevchenko who was a perennial 28-30 goal man and put up two 30+ seasons at Dynamo Kiev including CL goals, yet only qualified for 1 top 5 Euro league 30+ season here. Raul was another 29 goal a season man, hitting that figure on 3 seasons along with one 30+ season so of course also deserves a mention.
- Also honourable mentions go to consistent 25-30 goal a season men in Di Natale, Forlan, Batistuta, Inzaghi, David Villa, David Trezeguet, Rivaldo, Crespo, Hasselbaink, Icardi and also to the players that broke the 30 goal barrier in 2 seasons in Diego Milito, Rooney, Dzeko, Van Persie, Luca Toni, Immobile, M'Bappe.
- Also a shout-out to Christian Vieri who put up outstanding scoring numbers but suffered from injuries capping his totals in the 25-29 goal range, did it for 4 seasons without even playing close to 40 games.
-Worth noting that plenty of the players on this list put up multiple other seasons over 20 and in some cases, 25-29 but in over the 40 apps cap. Just had to introduce a cap somewhere otherwise would have been too generic a list and have too many players to list. Also like the old school 30+ goal barometer.
- Messi and Ronaldo's numbers speak for themselves, absolute dwarf the competition nearly doubling the season count of the most elite goalscorers of their generation in Lewandowski and Aguero. What's even more amazing is that the vast majority of Messi and Ronaldo's seasons were actually in the 40-60 goal range, eviscerating Aguero from the podium and only leaving Lewy hanging in there.
- Ronaldo Lima's numbers are insane when you consider that he only made 36 apps in club football over the course of 4 seasons in the middle of his prime ! And he comes back from 4 year injury hell to dominate and win a World Cup as well as put up back to back 30+ goal campaigns at Real Madrid, incredible feat.
- Benzema being so high up and having the longest period of time between his first 30 goal season and his last along with Ronaldo is pretty remarkable. Combine that with his CL goalscoring record as well as his phenomenal link up play/all round game and it's easy to see why Real Madrid have persisted with the guy and he has outlasted everyone barring Ramos and Marcelo at the club.
- Aguero's place is incredible too although the criteria was a little kinder to him than others. Didn't have as high a peak as a few below him on the list, no denying his consistency though up there with the very best. He actually had 4 seasons of near-misses too between his Atletico days and being reduced games at City because of injuries.
- Also surprising to see Cavani so high up the list, was absolutely ridiculous at Napoli one nearly forgets.

Hope that somebody finds this write-up interesting, took long enough haha.
Stats source: Wikipedia
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GW5 Clean sheet and goal odds

Clean sheet odds:


Team Clean sheet % Day
1. Juventus 56% 2
2. Atalanta 47% 1
3. Leipzig 37% 2
4. Barcelona 35% 2
4. Manchester City 35% 1
6. Marseille 33% 1
6. Real Madrid 33% 1
6. Salzburg 33% 1
9. Atletico 28% 1
9. Dortmund 28% 2
11. Chelsea 24% 1
11. Liverpool 24% 1

Odds to score:

This does NOT include assists. Bet against means if it's possible to bet against the player scoring, Yes usually indicates higher accuracy.
Forwards:
Player Goal % Bet against Day
1. Ronaldo 63% Yes 2
2. Haaland 62% Yes 2
3. Zapata 59% Yes 1
4. Messi 56% No 2
5. Benzema 51% Yes 1
6. Daka 48% No 1
7. Morata 47% Yes 2
8. Gomez 46% Yes 1
9. Aguero 40% No 1
9. Lukaku 40% Yes 1
9. Sorloth 40% No 2
12. Mbappe 37% Yes 2
Midfielders:
Player Goal % Bet Against Day
1. Iličić 53% No 1
2. Salah 48% Yes 1
3. Mane 42% Yes 1
4. Jota 40% No 1
5. Vinicius 35% Yes 1
6. Joao Felix 34% Yes 1
6. Sancho 34% Yes 2
6. Sterling 34% Yes 1
9. Coutinho 33% No 2
10. De Bruyne 29% Yes 1
10. Fernandes 29% Yes 2
12. Mahrez 28% No 1

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A review of United's transfer activity since 2013.

United's transfer market woes in the post Ferguson era.

TLDR: United are not good in the transfer market. They consistently pay more for less. Tables incoming.
I wanted to make this post to highlight United's shortcomings in the transfer market. This is going to be a complicated way of saying United need a Director of Football, or at the very least a long term plan. In the past 7 years United have not had a clear vision towards building a team. They have let four managers with very different ideas make decisions on which players should be bought and sold. This has led to a lot of change and turmoil within the squad. During this time teams like Leicester, Liverpool, Dortmund and Bayern would become very adept in a transfer market that has seen transfer fees ballooning out of control. In the notable transfer sections I tried to include known players in positions that United were looking for while excluding players that United would never be in for i.e. Suarez.

David Moyes - 81 crosses (2013-2014)

United set the tone for what the future will hold in the first transfer window post Ferguson. Moyes rejects Thiago and United proceed to spend over the odds on Fellaini, as reports come out that they are working on signing Bale, Ronaldo and Fabregas. United also miss out on Ander Herrera on deadline day. In January, Mata joins a position group that includes Rooney and Kagawa.
Targets
CM, LB
Players In
Player Pos Club Fee
Marouane Fellaini CM Everton £29.16m
Juan Mata CM Chelsea £40.26m
Notable Transfers
Player Pos Club Fee
Mesut Ozil CM Arsenal £42.30m
Thiago CM Bayern Munich £22.50m
Nemanja Matic CM Chelsea £22.50m
Isco CM Real Madrid £27.00m
Lucas Digne LB PSG £13.50m
Riyad Mahrez RW Leicester £00.45m
Hindsight is 20/20 - Missing out on Thiago hurts, given his age and cost Moyes should have been overruled. Digne would have been a decent signing to learn under Evra who had a couple years left. Buying Thiago and Digne instead of Fellaini and Mata would have saved United around £35.00m and better set them up for the future.

Louis Van Gaal - Oranje United (2014-2016)

Now it starts to get bad. Louis Van Gaal takes over United after a strong showing at the World Cup. He buys Blind and Rojo to accomodate switching to a 5-3-2 formation. Late in the window Angel Di Maria is signed and United switch to a traditional 4-3-3. The United old guard is starting to look old; Rooney, Carrick, RVP are all in the twilight of their careers. Ander Herrera and Luke Shaw finally make it to United. During LVGs tenure Antonio Valencia and Ashley Young begin their transformations into full backs. LVG guts most of the squad in his two years at the club. Favorites like Nani, Rafael, Chicharito and RVP leave the club. United becomes a group of players rather than a cohesive squad.
Targets
Year 1 - CM, LB, CB, ST
Year 2 - ST, LW, CM, RB
Players In
Player Pos Club Fee
Angel Di Maria CM Real Madrid £67.50m
Luke Shaw LB Southampton £33.75m
Ander Herrera CM Athletic Bilbao £32.40m
Marcos Rojo CB Sportin CP £18.00m
Daley Blind CB Ajax £15.75m
Falcao ST Monaco £6.84m (loan)
Year 2
Anthony Martial ST Monaco £54.00m
Memphis Depay LW PSV £30.60m
Morgan Schneiderlin CM Southampton £31.50m
Bastian Schweinsteiger CM Bayern Munich £8.10m
Mateo Darmian RB Torino £16.20m
Sergio Romero GK Sampodoria Free
Notable Transfers
Player Pos Club Fee
Alexis Sanchez CF Arsenal £38.25m
Antoine Griezmann CF Atletico Madrid £48.60m
Paulo Dybala CF Juventus £36.00m
Cesc Fabregas CM Barcelona £29.70m
Toni Kroos CM Real Madrid £22.50m
Ivan Rakitic CM Barcelona £16.20m
Ngolo Kante CM Leicester £8.10m
Alex Sandro LB Juventus £23.40m
Layvin Kurzawa LB PSG £22.50m
Nathaniel Clyne RB Liverpool £15.93m
Joao Cancelo RB Valencia £13.50m
David Luiz CB PSG £44.55m
Medhi Benatia CB Bayern Munich £25.20m
Virgil Van Dijk CB Southampton £14.13m
Hindsight is 20/20 - LVG shuts down Moyes's work on Toni Kroos. Herrera comes in, only for LVG to go after Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger the following year. In another universe United have a midfield of Thiago, Kroos, and Hererra that cost them £77.00m. Plenty of full backs are on the move in these two years, instead United opt for Valencia and Young. Also a certain Dutch defender moves to the PL. United start paying over the odds for players. Schneiderlin and Hererra cost United more than Kroos, Fabregas and Rakitic.

Jose Mourinho - "Respek" (2016-2019)

After winning the FA Cup LVG is fired the next day and Jose Mourinho takes over. Jose immediately attracts big names and Paul Pogba comes home. Following a Europa League win and a second place finish that never saw United threaten for the title Jose falls out with Pogba and begins a now all too familiar process. Alexis Sanchez is signed and the morale hits a new low.
Targets
Year 1 - ST, RW, CM, CB
Year 2 - ST, CM, CB
Year 3 - CB, LW, CM
Players In
Player Pos Club Fee
Paul Pogba CM Juventus £94.50m
Henrikh Mkhitaryan RW Dortmund £37.80m
Eric Bailly CB Villarreal £34.20m
Zlatan Ibrahimovic ST PSG Free
Year 2
Romelu Lukaku ST Everton £76.23m
Nemanja Matic CM Chelsea £40.23m
Victor Lindelof CB Benfica £31.50m
Alexis Sanchez LW Arsenal Swap
Year 3
Fred CM Shaktar Donetsk £53.10m
Diogo Dalot RB Porto £19.80m
Lee Grant GK Stoke £1.53m
Notable Transfers
Player Pos Club Fee
Leroy Sane LW Man City £46.80m
Sadio Mane LW Liverpool £37.80m
Riyad Mahrez RW Man City £61.00m
Lucas Moura RW Spurs £25.56m
Mohamed Salah RW Roma £20.70m
Mohamed Salah RW Liverpool £37.80m
Christian Pulisic LW Chelsea £57.60m
Fabihno CM Liverpool £40.50m
Youri Tielemans CM Monaco £22.50m
Wilfried Ndidi CM Leicester £15.84m
James Maddison CM Leicester £22.50m
Virgil Van Dijk CB Liverpool £76.19m
Aymeric Laporte CB Man City £58.50m
Martin Skriniar CB Inter £30.60m
Davinson Sanchez CB Spurs £37.80m
Stefen de Vrij CB Inter Free
Ricardo Pereira RB Leicester £19.80m
Serge Aurier RB Spurs £22.50m
Benjamin Mendy LB Man City £51.57m
Kyle Walker RB Man City £47.43m
Joao Cancelo RB Juventus £36.36m
Hindsight is 20/20 - Jose never really fit United, however he did much better than previous managers did. Spending £170.00m on a ST and an attack minded midfielder when you play a defensive counter attacking system is mind boggling. Jose bought three defenders and not one of them was a ready made player. Meanwhile VVD would join Liverpool and Laporte would join City with a gaggle of full backs. Jose would persist with Valencia and Young. The Fred signing was an odd one given the cost. Its important to point out that during Jose's tenure transfer fees ballooned to new heights. I think it is also interesting to see how Leicester are showing up United in the market. Ndidi, Maddison and Pereira are all good players whom play in positions that United needed, and United spent around double for the players they would eventually sign. Jose would have known that the defenders he had were not good enough. I am still shocked that he didn't start by rebuilding the defense.

Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - "Ole's at the wheel" (2019-Present)

Targets
Year 1 - CB, RB, CM, LW
Year 2 - RW, CB, LB, ST, CM
Ole joins United and the mood is immediately lifted. Players are smiling and more importantly the team starts winning. United give Ole the job and immediately come back to reality. United claim that they have their stuff together in the transfer market and shrug off any suggestions of a Director of Football.
Players In
Player Pos Club Fee
Harry Maguire CB Leicester £78.30m
Aaron Wan Bissaka RB Crystal Palce £49.50m
Daniel James LW Swansea £16.00m
Bruno Fernandes CM Sporting CP £49.50m
Year 2
Donny Van De Beek CM Ajax £35.10m
Alex Telles LB Porto £13.50m
Amad Diallo RW Atalanta £18.90m
Facundo Pellistri RW Penarol £7.65m
Edinson Cavani ST PSG Free
Notable Transfers
I am going to leave this blank because I think its too early to determine much from this.
Hindsight is 20/20 - Maguire and AWB is United paying for mistakes of the past. There were plenty of opportunities to be more proactive in the market with a vision on the future. VDB and Telles represent good value signings. Diallo and Pellistri are unknowns, but personally, I like these types of signings because they represent low risk, high reward. Bruno's signing saved the 19/20 season, but you have to question what took them so long. At this point we are all aware of the embarrassment of the summer window.
Summary
United are in dire need of a long-term plan. This shows that United do spend money, they just spend it poorly. A revolving door of managers and two investment bankers are not going to be able to build a cohesive side capable of challenging for trophies. They are constantly paying more for players who do not prove to be more value. Until United make the change to put a football minded person in charge of building the squad the club will continue to wallow in mediocrity. The big misses over the past seven years are Thiago and Kroos, and buying 3 fullbacks over that period while two converted wingers occupied those positions. Oh, yea and the right wing.
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Reviewing the 2011/12 Season, Best/Worst Matches, Highs/Lows - by BluFF

Reviewing the 2011/12 Season, Best/Worst Matches, Highs/Lows - by BluFF
After reviewing the 2013/14 and 2014/15 seasons (links can be found at the bottom), I decided to travel further back in time to review the 2011/12 season. This was a season of two halves. André Villas-Boas took charge of the majority of this season until his sacking in March of 2012, where he was replaced by second in command and fan-favorite (and former Chelsea player), Roberto Di Matteo. What followed, was something special. Let's find out what the best/worst matches and general highs/lows were from this season.
P.S. If you are a newer fan, you do not want to miss this season!
Quick recap of where we were in 2011:
  • Carlo Ancelloti won us the double (league title and FA Cup) in 2009/10, and was sacked the following season (2010/11) after finishing runners up to United. This sacking is perhaps one of the more shocking sackings in our modern history (and we have had ALOT), even many Chelsea fans were left speechless. Carlo was loved, albeit inconsistent (we came 2nd but were as low as 5th at one stage in 2010/11, also his defeat to Jose's Inter in the CL KO, was probably curtains in Abramovich's eyes). Anyways, I'll go into this more when reviewing those respective seasons.
  • Point is, we were searching for a new manager going into the 2011/12 season and appointed a very young, talented up and coming manager André Villas-Boas (AVB), he was just 32 years old at the time and had just come off of winning the treble with Porto (Europa League).
  • At this point, Abramovich REALLY wanted to win the CL (only major trophy left to win under his ownership at this time) and we had come so close on many occasions in the past, and were only left empty-handed by either sheer dumb luck (2005), scandalous refereeing (2009) or just the wrong side of the post (2008). If you are a newer fan, and don't completely know what I am talking about here, CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY. Point is, Abramovich was desperate, and we were also very annoyed and frustrated, that our legendary spine was running out of time (in terms of their peak) to win this illustrious trophy.
  • We always knew a transition season was coming, where we had to replace/phase out the likes of Lampard (33), Terry (31), Drogba (33), Paulo Ferreira (32) and Cole (31). Cech was close too (30), but GKs typically have more years. Even Essien (29) who should be in his peak, was constantly injured, and even missed the first half of this season sadly.
André Villas-Boas's term & The Lows:
  • Basically, in his whole 9-month term, AVB attempted to transition Chelsea into a more youthful, less reliant on the old-guards, higher tempo, and higher backline Chelsea. In hindsight, it was a good project, and the manager was a good appointment, he was known for a good attractive brand of football at Porto (undefeated season, only 13 goals conceded), and given time, and more backing, who knows what he could have accomplished.
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  • The signings this season (both summer and January) were terrific and in hindsight could have been one of the best TW in Chelsea's history. We signed fan favorite and a future 2 time POTS Juan Mata, ultimate underdog story Gary Cahill, young Belgium talents Lukaku, Courtois, and KDB. We also had newly signed David Luiz and 50M Fernando Torres from last season's January TW. We also bought Raul Meireles (MRLSH) for dirt cheap on deadline day in the summer. Seriously, this window was underrated and was indicative of the future Abramovich wanted Chelsea to go towards.
  • The league campaign fell apart pretty soon, through a combination of very strong Manchester sides running away with the league and our poor results, we started to see faults and background rumblings in October-November with defeats to QPR away, Arsenal at home and back to back losses to Liverpool. Those months were infamous during this time period for Chelsea, I will get into this more in the 2012/13 season review, but as a quick summary, from 2010 to 2013 we had notoriously poor form in late October-November, and even had a manager sacked in November, because of this bad form. It was dubbed the 'dreaded month of November' by Chelsea fans. it was bad.
QPR 1-0 Chelsea: The game itself was interesting, we had two red cards in the span of 7 minutes, yes TWO. We actually didn't play too badly with 9 men, but ultimately blew the chance to go second after United lost 6-1 at home to City. This game was also where Terry became involved in an investigation by the FA for his alleged racial abusement of QPR defender Anton Ferdinand. Terry would be found guilty and banned for four games the following season.
Chelsea 3-5 Arsenal: Yes, you heard it right, a team hardly knew what it was like to lose at SB, conceded 5 goals to Arsenal, including goals from Andre Santos, a ridiculous goal from Theo Walcott and a hattrick from in-form Robin Van Persie. Arsenal completely destroyed Chelsea's high line.
Shock double loss to Liverpool at SB: In November, we lost 2-1 at home to an under-par Liverpool side, which included a rare piece of brilliance from FULLBACK Glen Johnson in the 87th minute. Chelsea suffered their first back to back home defeat in the league since Roman took over in 2003. What made this worse, is a week later we would lose at home AGAIN, to Liverpool as they knocked us out of the Carling Cup (which they would end up winning). Liverpool were NOT fun to face in 2010 and 2011, we lost to them countless times. It was also some of their worst built teams which made it all the more worse.
  • On top of this, the real run of bad results came in Dec-Feb, where we would only pick up 12 points from 10 games, including a crazy 3-3 draw to United. Combination of high-risk tactics (playing slow defenders like Brana, Alex and Terry in a very high line), inconsistencies in our attack (Torres/Drogba/Anelka), and some players perhaps downing tools due to disagreements with the manager (or just not getting game time). There was also that game in Naples in the CL KO.
Chelsea 3-3 Manchester United: Have you ever wondered why people troll United saying referees (namely Howard Webb) always favored them, or always award them penalties? Just watch this match in February 2012. We led 3-0 at half (one of which includes a brilliant Mata volley) but then ended up conceding TWO penalties and a trademark goal from the man who couldn't stop scoring against Chelsea in 2010-2012, Chicharito. United of course were chasing the title, so you could imagine the backlash following this match. I believe this Howard Webb photoshop was made after this game lol. This game also features an incredible DDG save denying Juan Mata's world-class free-kick to win it.
Napoli 3-1 Chelsea, CL KO: Napoli's front 3 of Cavani, Lavezzi, and Hamsik were probably borderline world-class, and were having good individual seasons. Chelsea actually went infront this game through Mata but were then ripped apart. Criticisms fell on Luiz, Cahil, MRLSH, and of course the on-going saga with the old guard and AVB, as guys like Lampard, Cole, Essien, Torres were all benched for this game. Cole did come on and make a now-iconic clearance off the line to deny Napoli going 4-1, which they deserved.
  • Ashley Cole had later confirmed that many players were not the happiest under AVB, and there were strong stories of the old-guard going to Abramovich to complain about AVB's tactics. It's a shame that the club was embroiled in this kind of controversy, especially around the time AVB was ultimately sacked.
  • AVB was a relatively new manager, who wasn't a charismatic enigma like Jose Mourinho or club icon like Sir Alex both of whom could probably get away with ruffling feathers (and have). AVB on the other hand was still young and not as proven as our old guard were. I also think his communication skills weren't the best, or it came off very Mauricio Sarri like. I think not having the accolades to back some of his actions ultimately cost him, and he was probably the wrong guy to entrust a transitional season with IMO. I also think this shouldn't have been a transitional season. I know the old guard were, well, old, but they could still play, as we would find out soon
  • Ultimately, Chelsea dropping out of the top 4, and likely heading out of the Champions League knockouts (after being destroyed in Naples at the hands of a frightening Napoli side) was the tipping point, and AVB was sacked in March. Roberto Di Matteo took over.
Roberto Di Matteo's term & The Highs:
  • I feel Robbie, was never the tactics guy, or the manager that was known for a certain attribute (defending, passing, attacking, etc.), he had great faith with the fans, mostly for his time as a Chelsea player which was highly successful (he scored in the FA cup final in 97 and won two more trophies the following year). RDM was a big fan favorite. IMO he was not the manager Chelsea wanted but the manager Chelsea needed at this time. Someone that the players loved and respected, and someone who could steady the ship. But he did more than that. Especially at a time where the club, the fans, and the players were at a low point.
Chelsea 3-0 Valencia, CL Group Stages: Ok, so I kind of cheated here, we did have one big high during AVB's term. We needed to beat a tricky, unpredictable Valencia at home in a straight shootout for that last spot in the KO. Lampard was benched for this game which probably would have been fatal for AVB had he lost, but thankfully Drogba stepped up with a brace. Mata and Ramires were also great that night. What's funny is Leverkusen had what looked like a sure-fire win against winless Genk, to claim the top spot, only for them to tie and gift Chelsea top spot where we would avoid Barcelona in the first round of KO!
  • So our league form didn't really improve after Di Matteo took charge, it was more or less the same, we had our upsides in the league (6-1 win against QPR with Torres's hat trick) but also lows like losing at home to Newcastle courtesy of a brace at the hands of Papisse Cisse. We were outside top 4 when AVB was sacked and ultimately stayed outside top 4 with RDM, and ended up finishing 6th. Granted we were touching distance at times from top 4, and the overall mood, atmosphere and club morale was at a much higher level than under AVB. But ultimately, RDM pretty much sacrificed certain league games in favor of the FA Cup and Champions League.
Chelsea 4-1 Napoli (5-4 AGG), UCL KO: Lets go back to where we left off with AVB, it was March 2012, Chelsea were down 3-1 on AGG, manager sacked, club/fans morale low, and facing a Napoli side on the back of 5 straight league wins, scoring 6 in their last league match. There was only 1 favorite, and perhaps this is why this match is so legendary. RDM's first decision was to bring back the golden oldies and boy did they deliver. Drogba and Terry score first to make the scoreline 3-3 on AGG, with Chelsea advancing on away goals. Then Inler scores which now requires Chelsea to score 2 to advance. Napoli then has an incredible near 1v1 chance but Cech makes a vital save to keep Chelsea in the CL. Chelsea then gets a pen in the 75th which Lampard scores and the game goes to ET (4-4 on AGG). We all know what happens next with Brana scoring a stunner to win the game in ET. Chelsea won against all the odds and media predictions. Turning point of the season.
Chelsea 2-1 Benfica (3-1 AGG) UCL, QF: Benfica were up next after Napoli. Benfica was a dark horse, having already knocked out last years CL finalist Machester United, Chelsea went into the second leg at home with a slender but brilliant 1-0 lead, which they got through an underrated Ramires-Torres assist to Kalou (who really shone in the second half of the season). Chelsea took the lead early through Lampard penalty and should have killed it if not for an incredible miss from Ramires. Benfica got one back and it set up a very tense last 10 minutes finish to the game because a Benfica goal would mean Chelsea were knocked out. ENTER MRLSH and THAT iconic goal on the break in the 90th, the one where he should have maybe passed but instead scores a screamer, and celebrates like only he can. Shame he only stuck around for a season, he was a cult hero.
  • Sorry about the lengthy write-ups about the next two games, but had a lot to say
Barcelona 2-2 Chelsea (2-3 AGG) UCL, SF: Chelsea's CL campaign was a roller coaster that didn't fail to deliver incredible ups and downs. After a great win over Benfica, Chelsea faced defending champions Barcelona in the semi-finals (and the greatest football team in the world, that Guardiola's Tiki Taka team that dominated club football since 2008/09). Chelsea took a brilliant 1-0 lead to the Nou Camp, after an incredible gritty performance in the first leg at SB. There was so much happening in this game it's ridiculous, Gary's injury in the 12th forcing him off, being replaced by Jose Bosingwa at CB. Pique also departed shortly. Then a period of extreme lows, in the span of 7 minutes, our Captain, Leader, Legend let us down big time by getting sent off in a ridiculous manner, which was sandwiched in the middle of two Barcelona goals. This meant Chelsea were trailing 1-2 of AGG, then a minute before half time, Lampard takes out 3 players and plays probably one of the best passes of his career under pressure right at Ramires's feet who scores what is possibly the greatest goal in Chelsea's history, that audacious chip against Valdes that stunned the Nou Camp and put Chelsea ahead in the tie due to away goals, and required Barcelona to score again against 10 man Chelsea. In the second half Drogba gave away a penalty but Messi hit the post, Messi again hit the post, and it seemed it just wasn't going in for Barcelona, but they were putting tremendous pressure on a resolute makeshift Chelsea backline (Ramires-Ivanovich-Bosingwa-Cole). Then comes the moment straight out of a Hollywood script, as injury time sub Fernando Torres comes on and scores an incredible breakaway goal to send Chelsea to Munich.
Chelsea beating Bayern in the Champions League Final: Bayern didn't win the league this year and all their marbles were in this basket. If that was not enough, the final was being played at their home ground, which is such a rarity. Add to that, Chelsea had many key players missing through suspension including Ivanovic, MRLSH, Ramires, and of course Chelsea's Captain John Terry. RDM's deployment of Ryan Bertrand on the left-wing surprised everyone, but it was a masterstroke, as he and Cole kept Robben at bay. Luckily for us, Gomez had a bad night, but Chelsea were resilient in their defending, with standout performances from Mikel, Cahill, and Luiz (both of the latter playing injured). Chelsea didn't really threaten at all this game sadly, and Muller would eventually put Bayern ahead in the 82nd minute, only for him to be taken off shortly after for a defensive change. Enter Torres who did inject some spark into Chelsea and showed directness, winning a corner in the 88th, which Mata delivered and Drogba scored. This header is criminally underrated, only Drogba could score from that location against the best keeper in the world. Game went into ET, where Drogba gave up a penalty when he fouled Ribery, Cech saved Robben's penalty, and the game went to a shootout. It's amazing that Chelsea not only won the shootout against a German team (notoriously good at penalties) but won it after missing their first penalty and Bayern scoring their first three (one of which was by a keeper). Luiz, Lampard, Cole with crucial penalties, and Drogba of course sealed it after Cech saved Bayern's last two spot-kicks.
  • Cech has since told us he spent several hours studying Bayern's kick takers all the way from 2007
  • Drogba has also since said that he took a short run-up b/c he didn't want to give Neuer any time to think where he will go.
  • Another fun fact, Lampard won the toss for the shoot out and chose to have the kicks be at the Bayern end, I guess to put less pressure on Chelsea, and it worked out!
  • Thus ended a terrific end to the season, and RDM's Chelsea go down in the history books, Drogba left Chelsea a legend, and the old-guards did have one last European spark to lift that famous trophy.

Other notes from this season:
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Cech's finest hour: The amount of crucial saves Cech made in the second half of the season is unbelievable, he is IMO the SOLE reason we won the two trophies we did win, sure Drogba and Torres take the headlines, but Drogba cost us two massive penalties (vs Barca and vs Bayern) that could have gone the other way, Cech guessed right for both and saved Drogba's blushes. Cech was outstanding in the home ties vs Napoli, Barcelona, and of course was the official MOTM in the CL final, where he saved Robben's penalty in ET, and correctly guessed all 5 Bayern penalties in the shootout, saving 2 (Yes, he got fingertips to Schweinsteiger's penalty). Not to mention he made IMO one of the best saves you will ever see, when he somehow kept Carrol's bullet header out of the goal with milliseconds to react due to how close Carrol's header was, this was in the FA cup final no less. Absolute Champion. There was a reason Drogba went to him first after slotting in the winning penalty against Bayern.
Special Juan: Special shout out to Juan Mata, in his debut season, he contributed 12 goals and a stunning 20 assists! one of course being in the CL final. Chelsea's POTS. That is some honor considering there were many contenders.
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FA Cup victory, 2-1 win vs Liverpool, Final: After 4 consecutive defeats to Liverpool, Chelsea finally beat them in the big one, FA Cup final. Liverpool had just won the Carling Cup in February 2012, so both teams had momentum. Of course Wembley specialist and man for the finals, Drogba scores the opening goal after a brilliant assist by Frank. Ramires scored the second continuing his big match scoring spree. Liverpool definitely fought back and Andy Carrol scored perhaps his best Liverpool goal and probably should have had a second if it was any other keeper then Cech, who pulled of the save of the season. I love winning FA cups. This often gets overshadowed b/c of our CL victory, but this would have given us a lot of confidence ahead of Bayern in a few weeks time.

Fun Moments:
  • John Terry being the 3rd best passer in the world in 2011 (for players with over 1,000 passes), with a 91.6% pass accuracy rate. Only Barcelona player Xavi (93.0%) and Swansea City player Leon Britton (93.3%) were better. Terry was always a criminally underrated passer, this was nice to read.
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  • Thrashing Spurs 5-1 at Wembley in the FA semi-finals: This is a hidden gem of a match, right smack dab in the middle of our CL run, was a quiet but quite brilliant FA cup run as well. Our first real test in this competition came here, against Spurs. Drogba scored arguably his best goal at Wembley, and that is saying something, considering he's scored 265 goals at Wembley lol. If you have not seen this, I would take the time to check it out. Lampard probably the same tbh. Stunning performance. Mata with a great assist to Ramires who continued his great form. Terry with a vital clearance off the line at 0-0.
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  • BOSSingwa absolutely trolling our trophy celebration in Munich, when he just couldn't let anyone else get the limelight, it was pretty hilarious
  • The CL trophy celebration in general, from Terry's strip to full Chelsea kit, to Luiz and Brana's goal post celebration, to RDM telling Abramovich "I told you", it was all good.
  • Daniel Sturridge's regular goals during the first half of the season, he scored 13 goals in 2011/12 a great return for a player so young and playing out of his preferred position. Became less used under RDM. He was also inconsistent and was often a frustrating figure due to his selfishness and general lack of awareness, also his injury record. When he was fit, he definitely was a goal threat, as we would find out for Liverpool in 2 seasons time.
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  • Chelsea is no stranger to Brazilian players, but before Ramires, we hardly had many. Ramires and Luiz really brought out that proper Brazilian samba and flair to Chelsea, and it's no surprise they were very popular, especially the Geezer. Ramires had a terrific goal-scoring season as well. He is of course a two-time Chelsea goal of the season winner for a reason! Luiz also scored some crackers this season, including two peach curlers that Drogba would have been proud of
  • I cannot say again how underrated Ramires was during this season, goals throughout the season, same with Mata, Lampard, Terry, Brana and Cole, vital contributions throughout
  • Torres's hat trick against QPR, it came right after the goal at the Nou Camp, you could tell he was confident, it was a great week for good old Nando
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  • Kalou's CL final haircut, I think Drogba summarized everyone's reaction pretty well here.
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  • Just before the kickoff of our CL final, which was being played at Bayern Munich's home stadium, the Bayern fans had this banner up which read " "Unser Stadt. Unser Stadion. Unser Pokal." Which meant "Our City" "Our Stadium" "Our Cup". They got 2/3 of that right. At least it didn't generate too many memes, right? WRONG.
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  • IDK if anything will top this, ever, but because we came 6th and won the CL, we actually prevented Spurs from playing in the CL next season even though they came fourth. At this time, UEFA strictly only allowed the # of designated teams of that league to play, England had four, so if one of the teams outside the top four won the competition, they would take the place of the lowest-ranked team, which would be Spurs at 4th LOL. Ultimate back-handed slap in the history of our rivalry! GOLD. (UEFA has since changed the rules lol)
TL:DR: Story of two halves. Season of so many incredible moments. FA cup win. One of the best UCL campaigns I have ever seen and many rival fans say this is perhaps the best ever. The odds stacked against us to win that Champions League was so much, I still can't believe we won it. But man, did we deserve it. We were founded in 1905 and won our biggest trophy on 19/05, in our opponent's backyard. It was written in the stars.
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I expected a closer match, but was not surprised by the result

I thought that the odds of an Adlers victory against Bayern were very slim. Two things I have noticed in my time following die Adlers are that we play horribly against Köln and well against Bayern. This seems to be true even though Köln are usually blow us in the table, and Bayern above.
Lewandowski is having the season of a generation. There was little that Trapp could do on the majority of the goals. He was screened on Lewandowski's second, the defense allowed too many Bayern players unchallenged pass receptions in spaces around the box.
Once it was obvious that we were not going to be competitive watching Bayern be Bayern was worth the time. I watch a lot of football, and for all the talk of Liverpool, Barcelona, etc., Bayern has been one of the best teams I've seen for the past season or two.
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Gamesmanship vs. Sportsmanship in Competitive Football

I made this comment a little earlier on someone's post about how to play against stronger, faster, better, and smarter teams. This was my response, which kind of spun off into some tangents.
The reason for posting is that I am curious about yall's opinions on gamesmanship. Specifically, I would love to hear yall's opinions of my take on competitive football. Do not hesitate to voice opinions and disagreements - I love debating and discussing topics of my passions/ interests openly and constructively.
EDIT: There is a very big misunderstanding with this post. With the approach to the game, mentality, and behavior I discuss in this post, I am VERY STRICTLY referring to highly competitive levels of football. I am NOT referring to recreational Sunday leagues or teams, nor am I referring to "moderately" competitive levels of football like an "elite" men's league.
Again, I repeat - almost verbatim:
I am talking about HIGHLY COMPETITIVE football with this mentality. That is IT. I am not talking about Sunday League or a higher-level/"elite" men's league. These antics and behavior have absolutely no place in recreational, street football nor do they have a place in "moderate" competitive levels.

In essence, should you be a footballer that finds themself approaching the game in a similar fashion as to what I described, you should only act on this if:

  1. Your job depends on it.
  2. Your scholarship depends on it.
  3. You are trying to be scouted -- which does not mean that those who are playing Sunday League trying to "get scouted" should use this. I am talking about those in high school under the USSDA program (or whatever they changed it to now) or are on club teams trying to play at the collegiate level.
Okay, edit over. Don' try this approach at your Sunday league. You will look like a complete jackass.

Grit: Typically, It Can't Be Taught

In a hypothetical scenario, you are given these choices:
  1. Play a team with strong, technically sound, football smart primadonnas
  2. Play a team with footballers that are not very strong, smart, or technically sound - BUT are absolute mother****ers; grunts that work harder than anyone on the pitch, running you into the ground, following you around the pitch, getting into your head and weakening your game, taking on dangerous, hard tackles, pick fights, talking **** in your ear all game. Just absolutely annoying, pest-like players that are filled with nothing but grit, determination, and a desire to win at any cost.
Who are you going to choose to play against? I, for one, would sure as hell pick team #1.
So my advice for your team is to be team #2. Be absolute mother****ers on the pitch and be completely relentless in everything that you do. Do not let them rest physically or mentally. Live in their mind the whole game; do not stop talking in their ears, go into every tackle the hardest you possibly can while keeping it CLEAN, and do not stop being a pest with your unrelenting physical efforts. This is a mindset that must be carried with you during all aspects of your game and preparations. This means the night before the game and when you wake up the next morning, you are fully determined to make the other team's game a living hell for 90 minutes. Accept that they may outclass you with their skill and game knowledge, but you will also REFUSE to accept that they will outwork you or be even remotely close to your determination for victory.

Gamesmanship: My Controversial Opinion and View of Gamesmanship in Competitive Sports

What is gamesmanship? Here is a definition I found online:

Gamesmanship is the use of dubious (although not technically illegal) methods to win or gain a serious advantage in a game or sport. It has been described as "Pushing the rules to the limit without getting caught, using whatever dubious methods possible to achieve the desired end". (Wikipedia)
I played competitive football for 12 years, which I ended after four years at the NCAA Division 1 college soccer level. I played center-half/defensive mid my entire career. Although I saw a decent amount of success in my career, which ranged from Division 1 All-Conference teams in the Southern Conference, to USSDA Defender of the Year Nominations, to US Training Center Invitations, and to captaining my USSDA U16 team to national playoffs, I was, and still am, slower than a tortoise bogged down by 100 lb. dumbbells. However, I was always very strong, physically built and big in size, and I knew how to use my body effectively. My technical ability heavily was influenced by my extremely slow pace, as I realized no matter how much I train dribbling to beat players and becoming technically sound with skill moves, my pace and slow acceleration would never allow me to be successful or effective with it. I realized I needed to keep my game to 3-4 touches max and gain pinpoint precision with passing. I figured the distance that I could not cover quickly with pace could be made up for by accurate "long" passes - which ultimately became a successful and incredibly important part of my game. I was a "connector" player for my team. In this regard, I tried to emulate Paul Scholes' deeply positioned, connecting play over long distances. I constantly searched for pockets of empty space, dropping back deep to connect with my center halves - sometimes dropping in as a third center halve to allow our pacier and offensively dangerous fullbacks to advance up the pitch and creating passing lanes from the pockets of space I left by dropping back. My college teammates would joke that they never saw me sprint ever in their 4 years of playing with me, to which they were probably not far off. I hardly ever needed to sprint or run to my maximum - yet very slow - speed. Defensively, and mostly due to my slow pace, I was forced to become very football smart. I was not able to make errors in positioning or allow myself to be on the wrong side of an attacke the ball because if this happened I was exposed and could not use agility to compensate for my errors. Therefore, I did not typically have to sprint or reach my maximum speed of 4 mph.; instead, I would read the game by following the movement of players in their relation to the ball. I would watch body language and eyes as opponents were on the ball. I would occupy spaces that I thought would block so many options that the point of attack would have to constantly just be switched until they became impatient or frustrated and forced something. With this comes leadership and constant communication with your team - you must look for opportunities to press, which are errors or when the opponent faces their back to your goal with the ball at their feet. Pounce on these opportunities and communicate with your team so loudly they can hear you from Old Trafford. Just this constant loud communication and constant, chaotic movement can cause a lot of mental pressure and added stress to your opponents game. Take advantage of this. I thought of my extensive game knowledge, but lack of pace like this:
They may be able to run past me, but they can't run through me if I am already there - nor could they even attempt to run with the ball if I get to the ball before they do.
Here is a good and quick example of football knowledge and how I used it to compensate for my lack of agility:
When a player had their back to me receiving the ball, I would grab one side of their body and faint to that same direction so that the opponent could see me visibly for a split second. If I did this to your left side, which way are you going to turn? If you said left, I would probably assume you are into black magic of some sorts and knew I was baiting you into turning right. I legitimately can not think of a time this did not work. The player would turn in the opposite direction of my touch every time. This allowed me to defend smartly and effectively while also not being exposed by my lack of pace and agility.
However, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, from the age of 8 until 21, there was one part of my game that remained consistent the entire time; I never lost it. That was my unwavering and overwhelming desire to beat my opponent at any cost. I was rough, tough, and relentless. I used my natural aggression and tenacity in my favor, which left me uninjured throughout my entire career. This is because I was always told, as long as you go in harder than your opponent, you will not get injured - I took that and ran with it. I used the maximum amount of aggression and ferocity that I could without committing a foul or getting booked, which was not always successful (it is easy to get carried away). When I went in for a tackle, I was never trying to get just the ball; I made sure to get the ball and make contact with the player - every time. Roy Keane was always an inspiration to me in this regard, although I did try to keep a more level head than he was able to throughout his career. They would remember that aggression every tackle they went into against me for the rest of the game.
For all 12 of my competitive years in football, I only knew the other team as the enemy - It was us vs. them. It was war for 90 minutes, which meant no chatter during the game with the opponent, no friendly smiles to opponents or anyone associated with them, no half-assed tackles, no second that goes by not utilized to create an advantage over them. As a pundit for Sky Sports Football, Roy Keane put it best after watching Manchester United and Liverpool in the tunnel before the match. He was infuriated with the way the players behaved. He said:
I’m disgusted with players (scenes in the tunnel). You’re going to war, they’re hugging and kissing. Don’t even look at the opposition. You’re going into battle against them.The game hasn’t changed that much, the players have changed. You’re going to war against these players and they’re hugging each other. Chat to them after the game, or don’t even chat to them after the game.
This mentality perfectly demonstrates my perception of competition. This war meant no sympathy for myself and especially not for the opponent, no sportsmanship (OTHER THAN INJURY), and leaving no stone unturned. After battling for a corner, throw-in, or any 50/50 with me, they were going to feel like they had been handled by a bear. They will not breathe, rest, or ease their mind until I decide I need some short rest in my relentless pursuit for victory. To be completely frank, I legitimately did not see my opponents as people. They were simply just objects obstructing me from my team's destination. They were interfering with my team's ability to win, so I treated them as such. I would utilize every tool I had to find victory. This included "Pushing the rules to the limit without getting caught, using whatever dubious methods possible to achieve the desired end."

Examples: Mentality and Use Of Gamesmanship In Competitive Matches Throughout My Career

Before the Match

During the Match

Post-Match

My Advice for You

Be a warrior - do not focus on anything else. You want to win more than they do. You want it more than them. You are going to go to places physically and mentally that they are unwilling to go to. You are not going to stop until you win. Utilize these examples I provided and exploit the weak mentalities of the other team. None of these examples require skill or technical ability, so there is no reason they can not be implemented into your game to give you an advantage. Having said that, gamesmanship within itself is not alone. It is very affective, but victory still requires grit, determination, and a relentless engine deep within you that will not stop until the final whistle blows; until you drop to the floor because you gave every last bit of yourself to the battle; until you are victorious. Take some time to research and watch videos of significantly weaker teams/ opponents taking on some of the greats and coming out victorious. Take Celtic vs. Barcelona for example. Celtic was clearly outclassed, but they used their unrelenting will to win and defeated Barcelona, which seems impossible when looking at the statistics of that game. But, at the end of the day, stats do not matter. Celtic managed the game better than Barcelona and was victorious. Also, do not ever forget of the classic English Premier League meme "But could you do it on a cold, rainy night at Stoke?" This classic meme in regards to the harshness of Stoke City's home turf conditions due to weather and their gritty playing style is a perfect example of how a lesser skilled team can still pose tremendous complications to any team in the world. There are genuinely people who believe that Lionel Messi - arguably the greatest footballer to ever live - would struggle on a cold, rainy night at Stoke. Which, obviously, has nothing to do with his technical skill or ability. It has to do with playing conditions and opponent play style. Would Messi's intricate and beautiful do well against a gritty, nasty, ugly and tough, work-horse team like Stoke City? Or would he crumble under the circumstances. Last but not least, never forget that Leicester City FC won the 2015/16 English Premier League trophy after being given 5,000-1 odds, that Riyad Mahrez went from playing for Le Havre in France's Ligue 2 in 2013 to winning a Premier League title, becoming the first African to earn the PFA Player of the year, and being named to the PFA Team of the Year all in 2015/16 - and eventually became Africa's most expensive footballer in 2017/18 with a £60m transfer fee to Manchester City and win two Premier League titles in 2017/18 and 2019/19. LEAST WE NOT FORGET the wiry, hard-working, pest of a player who is so affective in his unconventionally aggressive and direct style of play, Jamie Vardy - who won the golden boot in the 2019/20 season, 4 years after many thought he had peaked in his career. How incredibly wrong were they? Jamie Vardy not only continued to greatness while remaining at Leicester City, he also became the oldest player ever in the Premier League to earn the Golden Boot Award. The list of these instances goes on, and on, and on. Anything is possible.
Listen, do not give one ounce of thought to how much "better, stronger, faster, or smarter" the opponent is. Sure, those things could be true. However, even if they are - it does not matter. Why does it not matter?
Because you want to win more than them and are going to do anything in your power to do so.
God, I could run through a brick wall right now.

Ethics of Gamesmanship

Some people find gamesmanship to be unethical or not in proper "sportsmanship," which I respond: They do not win very often. Sportsmanship should only be demonstrated in two instances:
  1. When injury occurs
  2. When the final whistle blows
Aside from these instances, there should not be any form of sportsmanship displayed. Why should there not be any sportsmanship displayed, you ask? Because while you are demonstrating friendly nature and great sportsmanship, the man who does not care about any of this is pushing the rules of the game to the limits, taking advantage of your kindness and lifting the trophy at the end of the season - but hey, at least you were nice! Those that look down upon gamesmanship lose more than they win. In all walks of life, victory is a result of one team, group, or individual doing something their opponent was unwilling to do OR it is the result of that team going to a place that their opponent was not willing to go. Those that refuse gamesmanship as a part of their game will miss out on a tool to be used in efforts to win games - games can not always be won with talent alone. Those that refuse gamesmanship because of its "unethical" and dubious nature will simply be taken advantage of and lose to those who decide to utilize its power in a competitive setting. True champions accept that there is life on the pitch and life off the pitch - your best friend on the other team is not your best friend during a match, but they are as soon as the whistle blows. A good example of this is the rivalry that existed between Roy Keane and Patrick Vieira. These are two legends of the game that understood the principle of competitiveness and the difference between life and football - both of which saw incredible success due to their unrelenting attitudes, grit, and use of gamesmanship. And, like true gentleman, they are able to sit back and separate the game from every day life; displaying an understanding of war, defeating the enemy through any way possible, and as a result, being victorious.
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Notable one-hit wonder league title winners across leagues worldwide aka my stupid quest to mention some truly obscure football teams (Part I.I: UEFA)

This is my project in my spare time (which I definitely seem to have too much of these days) to try and learn more about some of the smaller leagues around the world and even some of the more obscure champions in high-profile football nations.
One-hit wonders are a weird thing in football. When you look at league title winners for different countries across the years, they usually stick out as oddballs (as in, sandwiched between one, two, or three teams and their domination). A good deal of them come out of nowhere and then disappear back into irrelevance shortly afterward. Yet, they leave a mark on the league that will never be erased.
I can't possibly cover every one-hit wonder in football history. Please don't be offended if I didn't get to your team (or country). I don't think any less of your team's league title and in a perfect world, I would've done them all. I want to get the biggest and baddest out of the way so I thought I'd start with UEFA. There's admittedly a lot, however: I'll have to break this off into two halves and the second half will come tomorrow.
Anyways, here goes:
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